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Thursday, January 12, 2006

Don’t Rape Her

Posted by on January 12 at 9:05 AM

There are blue posters up all over the Capitol Hill—and, I assume, up or going up in other neighborhoods—with some advice for men about rape: Don’t.

A lot has been said about how to prevent rape. Women should learn self-defense. Women should lock themselves in their houses after dark. Women shouldn’t have long hair and women shouldn’t wear short skirts. Women shouldn’t leave drinks unattended. Fuck, they shouldn’t get drunk at all.

Instead of that bullshit, how about:

if a woman is drunk, don’t rape her.
if a woman is walking alone at night, don’t rape her.
if a woman is drugged and unconscious, don’t rape her.
if a woman is wearing a short skirt, don’t rape her.
if a woman is jogging in a park at 5 am, don’t rape her.
if a woman looks like your ex-girlfriend you’re still hung up on, don’t rape her.
if a woman is asleep in her bed, don’t rape her.
if a woman is asleep in your bed, don’t rape her.
if a woman is doing her laundry, don’t rape her.
if a woman is in a coma, don’t rape her.


(skipping ahead…)
don’t lecture your women friends how to be safe and avoid rape. don’t imply that she could have avoided it if she’d only done/not done x. don’t sympathize with the perpetrator. don’t imply that it was in any way her fault.

don’t like silence imply agreement when someone tells you he “got some” with the drunk girl.
don’t perpetuate a culture that tells you that you have no control or responsibility for your actions. You can, too, help yourself.

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

I expect the posters—wheat pasted outside a lot of clubs where women get drunk, meet men, and are well-advised not to leave their drinks unattended—will spark many conversations. I agree generally with the intentions of the authors/activists behind the posters: men shouldn’t rape women, period. And that point needs to be emphasized again and again. Rape: Wrong. Don’t do it, boys. Don’t rape drunk women, jogging women, short-skirted women, or comatose women. It shouldn’t have to be said, but as rape happens despite everyone aggreeing that it’s wrong it obviously needs to be said again and again. And, yes, men who rape are responsible for their actions—they should be arrested and locked up.

But there’s a problem with this poster’s message.

Men who commit rape—particularly the type of guys who rape comatose women, their step-daughters, or women they find in houses they’ve broken into—are not going to be dissuaded by little blue posters or the disapproval of their friends. (“John, you know that I respect you as a friend, but I have to say that I believe raping a comatose women when you’re breaking into a house is simply wrong.”) Consequently women have to be on their guard. Men shoudn’t rape, men who do should be prosecuted. But the fact that some men do rape—and some men, sadly, always will—means women do need to keep an eye on their drinks. We don’t shift the responsibility for rape to women when we urge women to take a self-defense class or avoid walking home from a club alone at 2:30 in the morning or think better of getting blind-drunk in at a frat house. It’s recognizing reality—sad, tragic, wish-it-weren’t-so reality.


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But there’s a problem with this poster’s message.

Men who commit rape—particularly the type of guys who rape comatose women, their step-daughters, or women they find in houses they’ve broken into—are not going to be dissuaded by little blue posters or the disapproval of their friends.

You're about yay close to advocating a CCW license and firearms instruction for women. Which isn't a bad thing, I think.

Yeah, I understand the message of the poster, but that doesn't change the fact that we live in a world full of assholes who don't care about anyone but themselves, and that you need to be aware, be smart and look out for yourself, because there will ALWAYS be guys who act maliciously.

Even under the correct premise that men need to be resposible and rape is totally inappropriate, to imply that women should be absolved of being responsible and aware is completely irresponsible and weak.

recently a drunk girl at the cha cha said to a bartender and a man at the bar, i'm going outside to smoke. can you watch my drink?

they proceeded to waste the next five minutes making fun of her for asking them to watch her drink instead of her wallet. they were implying that she was such an alcoholic that she desired the preservation of her drug over her possessions. but from where i was sitting, it sounded like she was probably just asking them to keep other guys from putting GHB in her glass.

i'm pro the posters. nobody's going to stop telling girls to take steps to protect themselves, and they shouldn't. but even guys who aren't rapists could use some reeducation.

i'm pro the posters. nobody's going to stop telling girls to take steps to protect themselves, and they shouldn't. but even guys who aren't rapists could use some reeducation.

It's a wasted effort; the guys who will be bad actors are not going to be detered by a frikin' poster. It's also possible that the effort will lure people into thinking that it will actually do some good, which it won't.

i RESPECT men who "lecture their woman friends about how to be safe and avoid rape." whoever created those posters should be grateful to have men in their life who are educated about the issue.

i didn't say rapists would be deterred. obviously the posters won't work as deterrence. but cultural change is important too, and the example i cited wasn't about potential rapists. it was about men who presumably AREN'T rapists understanding why a woman would be concerned about date rape drugs going into her drink. it's a small issue, but still.

I think it's time that both men and women were educated about rape and violence. Anything that might even stop one person from commiting rape or educates one person is a good idea. Men should take responsibilty for watching there friends and stopping something bad, in the same way that women should watch their drinks. Rape and violence ( and not just against women) is something that everyone in a community should work on changing.

Asterisk, the poster doesn't reach men who willingly rape, and takes a condescending and patronizing tone towards men who wouldn't dare (and probably got the message long before the poster ground it in their face). It does nothing to get the message across to rapists or deter rape, and everything to alienate men and further foster an identity of 'you're a rapist by proxy'.

The poster is vindictive, buck-passing and accomplishes nothing.

One of the funniest people I ever met explained something simple to me: the truth is funny. Like, when in middle school some friends and I were discussing a corpus of obvious warning label text that we had stumbled on. One of them said "Keep hands and feet inside car when rolling up automatic windows." My favorite was "Keep knives out of children." If a woman is balancing on one hand while juggling beach balls with her feet, scratching her armpit, and sipping orange juice, don't rape her. The poster's author is pissed, and expresses it with wit that makes it stick in your mind, and I see that as the real value of the poster, particularly the line about silence being complicity. One could take offense to it as implying that all men need to be told not to rape women, but the reality is that it's a wretched crime primarily perpetrated by men against women, and that it can be done insidiously in casual situations where it can be prevented by level-headed folks nearby. I'm glad to see anything that reminds the morning throngs filing into Starbucks not to turn a blind eye to all the people in the world doing nasty shit to other people.

First off a life worth living is a life full of risks even stupid ones, even for women, even if they get raped.

Some of you men sure do spend an awful lot of time discussing women and how much personal responsiblity we should take when it comes to rape. Do you take that much time discussing how much personal resposnibilty you should take for your own health and well being? The world is a very dangerous place for you guys too, and you men take some really stupid risks that maybe you should not take. If your not sure what stupid risks you take, perhaps you can disscuss it with some of the women you know. It will do you some good.

I'll keep walking home alone late at night. I have been doing it for years. It is not irresponsible, it is a risk worth taking. Taking such risks gives me a lot more freedom than most women and it is not the place of any man or women to say which is more valuble, my safety or my freedom. That is for me to decide not people who think I should take more responsibilty to not be raped.

I think we're saying, "Don't point the finger back at innocent guys, many of whom would never try to rape you." Which is what the poster's message infers.

Let me parallel with an example: let's say I have a car (I don't in real life). I drive to Pioneer Square to hang out somewhere. If I don't want my stereo or car to get stolen, should I trust the crackheads and common criminals to not steal my shit?

NO. I should protect my vehicle by locking it and setting the alarm. Yes, it's wrong that I should have to go to all that trouble when it's the criminals who shouldn't be stealing shit... but that doesn't mean I shouldn't need to be responsible, or instead of being responsible, go up to random people, many of who are innocent people and aren't thieves and go, "Hey, if you see a car, don't steal it. If you like my stereo, don't steal it. If the upholstery's nice, don't steal it...."

Thank you for not making the analogy of having to locking your car and setting the alarm to women not being able to move about as free people, in the future. It is morally lacking, to say the least.

Getting upset about the posters is silly. They are a joke. The message is a nice turnabout for all those people who insist that they can nag women about how to be "responsible" for not being sexually assaulted. So you don't like the turnabout. Well think what it must be like to hear "Don't walk home alone at night.", "Don't go off with strangers.", "Don't leave your drink unattended.", nag, nag, nag. Like I said before, life is full of risks. If you don't take risks, be it going home with a stranger or rock climbing, because they are dangerous, you're not living. (By the way, in general, we allow men to take risks and have incredibly stupid accidents without harranging them about thier judgement. These "accidents" are often called sports injuies and can be very expensive to society).

I really like the posters. I think that while they won't deter men, women need to be reminded that it's NOT THEIR FAULT. That isn't to say that every single person needs to be concerned with their own personal safety. And we as girlfriends should have a sister's back as well. I do not ever, ever, ever, fucking ever want to hear a man tell ME what I need to do to be safer. I walk these streets every day knowing that at any moment something bad could happen. I needs friends, not paternalistic lecturers. Tell me how much Mia Zapata would have benefitted from a lecture.

Jess - If I ever run accross you out and about I will watch your back. Thank you for being one of the women out there who will watch mine if I ever need it.

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